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pawz
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on: February 7, 2015, 10:04
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I am an older lady in UK. I have come to the painful conclusion that intercessory prayer outside of a Christian fellowship does not work. The only understanding that makes sense to me is that, although we can pray for our own families and people in the church or fellowship we belong to, and some of these prayers will be answered,because these folk are part of the Lord's kingdom here on earth, we cannot pray for any situation in the world and get a response - leaving aside the serendipity of life which must suppose that some of these situations we pray for would resolve naturally without any divine action.

It seems to me that the Lord does not intercede in worldly affairs, because this is not His world at present, being given over to the enemy for a season. The enemy has been given allowance to do his worst here without hindrance or interference, until Jesus returns. Perhaps there are some sort of ground rules which both sides abide by which mean that the only way the Lord and Satan work in this world is through people - the physicle vehicles to carry out the will of their Lord. If this is so, or something like it, none of my prayers for desperate situations are ever going to yield results, whether I am praying for the release of starving bile bears in Vietnam, or Pastor Saeed who is imprisoned by a brutal regime, the situation in Africa, or Syria - whatever.

Before you say this cannot be, ponder on babies being burned alive at Tophet, which the Lord found an abominable practice, but did not stop it being done until King Josiah ended it. The Holocaust in the last war that killed millions of God's people, and turned so many away from the God who did not help them, or, if you remember it, little Alfredo Rampi who died three days after falling down an artesian well. Half the world prayed for that little boy, me included, but the Lord did not save him...

The Lord will act in His time of judgement, not before, I think, when the Kingdom of this world are claimed back by our victorious King and Saviour. Until then, the suffering will continue and prayer will not help. Tell me I am wrong, and why. The pain of feeling this way is so bad, I would welcome a way out.

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on: February 7, 2015, 20:10
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Thank you for sharing your thoughts.

But I would encourage you that maybe there is another answer.

As I read Scripture, I see that God purposefully allows things to take place that are against his revealed will.

One example of that is the crucifixion, which Peter says was according to the definite plan and foreknowledge of God (Acts 2:23).

The crucifixion was clearly evil and wicked, and yet it was purposefully allowed by God to bring about the glorious result.

I see the same truth in Genesis 50:20, where Joseph says that what his brothers meant as evil, God meant for good.

So the fact that wicked things take place does not mean God is not in control. I believe it means God has purposefully allowed these events because he is going to use them to bring about great good.

So I do believe God answers intercessory prayer for topics that are outside Christian fellowship.

Examples of this are the way God answered when the church prayed for Peter's release from prison in Acts 12:5-19.

I think also of how Paul urges us to pray for kings and all were in high positions (1 Timothy 2:2).

I believe God is in sovereign control of everything, and that we should pray about everything that concerns us.

I hope that helps.

In Christ,

Steve Fuller

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on: February 8, 2015, 01:00
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thank you Steve

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